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Baratus · Jul 26, 2005, 12:14 AM // 00:14

Alright, I need some gold, how do I gte it. I have been grinding for over a week trying to get 10k and I can't even get 2~3k. II used to enjoy this game but I am so sick of it right now. Nobody drops anything unless you venture alone. Venture alone and three or four hits mean death. Venture with allies and nobody drops anything. So you can spend hours with a few allies getting four or five items, or you can spend ten minutes dying trying to get better drops. I am stuck and need the cash for better armor and weaponry. I got my sword in Ascalon several patches ago and am at Kryta now, using the same sword because drops are so rare, and 90% of the time it won't drop a weapon I use. When it does, the weapon is weaker than mine! I can buy better ones, but I can't get any cash. Is it just me or is this whole game unbalanced now?

I remember playing from the beginning and it ruled. You needed cash? Go slaying for an hour or two and salvage or sell the drops. Now if you want anything you're supposed to grind for a week slaying the same damn monsters in the same area over and over and over and over again?! Everybody talks about the desert and other high-level places, but I can't go there yet. I have twelve or thirteen runes that I cannot use, and the retarded rune-seller sells them for 2~3plat, and offers me 25 gold for each? What the hell is that? At least give me half price!

I know you can offer to sell them to other players, and I've tried, at half the price of the respective new rune. No go. I have only sold one thing to another player since I started playing and only then because he was desperate and needed it more than I did. Still, if players won't buy the things, and a 2plat rune won't fetch more than 25 gold, how the hell can I make money with them?

I'm not trying to get rich and have 800plat here, I just want to make enough to get by. With the economy system non-functional (come on, 25gold for something worth 2p?) and players apparently abundant with the major and minor runes I have to get rid of, how does one do it? This sucks and I nwo understand 100% why people use macros or bots or whatever. Start it up and walk away for a month and have two or thre plat when you come back? I don't see the big deal. What I do see is hours of grind going unrewarded and an economy system so screwed-up it's impossible to do anything. In the time I played today, I made ~640 gold all day. That's just WRONG. I am open to suggestions other than "you don't need money". Trust me, YOU DO.

Mugon M. Musashi · Jul 26, 2005, 12:35 AM // 00:35

get guildmates to help you out and then repay when you can ?
if you're not willing to farm and just need a little cash to pay for your armors, I guess that should do it

Baratus · Jul 26, 2005, 12:40 AM // 00:40

We do help eachother, but none of us have the cash. Pooled we might have 3plat, if we're lucky. They're having the same problems I am. We get lucky and find a rune worth several plat, but you either sell it for 25 gold or keep it locked up in your inventory for when the economy is finally removed or fixed. Same with purple and blue weapons.

Oh and that reminds me. Is it NORMAL to continually get purple drops, but after identifying them, they have no rune or even special powers? I have found a dozen or so weapons and items like this. For instance, I found a short sword and when identified, it's name was "Shortsword", no extra atrributes, no nothing. Sold for 80 gold though. I've used expert salvage kits on a few of these and yielded no runes or anything. They're just purple. Like the devs want to tease you. You see a purple drop, get all excited, then it's nothing at all, as if making money wasn't hard enough.

Ultimate_Gaara · Jul 26, 2005, 12:40 AM // 00:40

im not even going to bother saying just how little money means in this game.. but i will say this.. just play the game, some day you will get lucky and find a item worth like 8K.. which is really all you need... another thing i did with my first character is i explored just about everywhere i can and got some ok drops... but they add up in the end, you dont need to farm to get gold.. just luck

Mugon M. Musashi · Jul 26, 2005, 12:49 AM // 00:49

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Originally Posted by Baratus

Oh and that reminds me. Is it NORMAL to continually get purple drops, but after identifying them, they have no rune or even special powers? I have found a dozen or so weapons and items like this. For instance, I found a short sword and when identified, it's name was "Shortsword", no extra atrributes, no nothing.

if it's not written "unidentified" then you have nothing to identify on it

the color blue/purple/gold doesn't mean your weapon will have bonuses, it means it is a rare drop compared to what is generally droped by the monster/enemy you killed

Baratus · Jul 26, 2005, 12:51 AM // 00:51

No what I meant was that it was unidentified and purple, but identifying it only showed a normal item colored purple. It didn't have any extras at all.

Mugon M. Musashi · Jul 26, 2005, 12:54 AM // 00:54

I'm pretty sure what you had was a purple weapon without the text "unidentified" written in the description
it happened to me several times

Amei Leng · Jul 26, 2005, 01:47 AM // 01:47

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Originally Posted by Baratus

Alright, I need some gold, how do I gte it. I have been grinding for over a week trying to get 10k and I can't even get 2~3k.

Even is pre-sear we make 2k in 3-4 hours

Baratus · Jul 26, 2005, 02:38 AM // 02:38

Pre-searing is more generous with drops. I was getting decent drops for that area while I was there. Try moving past that area and watch as it gets worse. I still haven't made jack.

I have two options right now and both are boring. I can push myself through the storyline to get on through the game, or I can spend hours upon hours wasting time trying to farm at areas other than the end of the game. Both are boring, but there's no choice. I pushed through three sections of the storyline and I still can't get good drops. What were the devs smoking when they did this? It's damn-near impossible to buy anything over 200~400 gold unless you spend weeks wasting away farming.

There has to be a balance between going through the story and building up your gold/experience. In GW all I see is pushing through the story because you cannot do the latter. So you can do the story, but when you wanna' take a break and get some new stuff, forget it. That's what I see anyway. They should have left a decent drop area every few missions so players could do that. Not everybody wants to push through just to beat the game.

Teg · Jul 26, 2005, 03:10 AM // 03:10

I'm sorry to hear about your wealth problem (or the lack of it) Where exactly are you right now (as far as the storyline goes)? Gold ($$$) drops gets better when fighting against high level monsters (not so bad gold drops starting in Gates of Kryta).

I'm an E/R and have a tendency to explore every bit of area (w/ the henchies as much as possible) and by the time I reached Granite Citadel, I was able to buy most of my 15k armor except for the gloves which I was a plat short (not to mention the other armors I had bought before I reached the Citadel). Granted, we Ele's don't need a helm nor did my armor require any rare material

Stauf · Jul 26, 2005, 05:44 AM // 05:44

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Originally Posted by Mugon M. Musashi

I'm pretty sure what you had was a purple weapon without the text "unidentified" written in the description
it happened to me several times

I don't know about that. I'm pretty sure I've had the same experience he's talking about.

Jasso · Jul 26, 2005, 05:55 AM // 05:55

Also you should always identify all things you are going to sell. For example, a plain short sword might be worth 20 gold when you are selling it but if you identify it before you sell it, might be worth of 36 gold. When you are short of gold at start of game, identifying helps a bit but its not a total solution for your problem

Lord Malikai · Jul 26, 2005, 06:04 AM // 06:04

I have to agree with the OP. This game came out and said straight up "Less grind than any other game". Bullcrap. So what the level caps at 20, you still need to grind 30 extra levels to get the skill points to get all your skills. You need to farm in an unfarmable game (let's face it, drops are rediculous now) for your Droknar armor. Forget it if you want the 15k armor, have fun farming for a week just for cash.

The only way to make it rich in this game is to make a primary monk, go to UW and do 3 man smite runs. Or be a trapper and do a 4 man trap run.

I'm not hatin on GW. I like the game. I just think the newer people to this game that did not get the chance to hit all the sweet spots that were out there when GW was first released, are going to find themselves farming a lot more than GW initially pitched in their release.

Lost · Jul 26, 2005, 06:10 AM // 06:10

By the time my first character reached the Granite Citadel and saw the 15k armor I decided I wanted that armor just so I could look expensive. The problem was I only had a few platinum. My character wasn't that strong so I couldn't solo any of the high value areas so I decided to farm a wimpy area to death.

I earned 60k in 2 days by killing everything in Scoundrel's Rise over and over and over and over. I picked up every item and every coin. Once I was full I sold everything and continued on and on and on. I would get about 1 to 1.5k each time I cleared the area. It was a mind numbing process, but it suited my needs.

MJ12trooper · Jul 26, 2005, 06:17 AM // 06:17

wow by the time i made it too droknars i had around 45k

Plommon · Jul 26, 2005, 06:53 AM // 06:53

2-3k ....... you say youve been playing a while......youre still in kryta.....GO AND GET ASCENDED AND GO TO WHERE THE REAL DROPS ARE!!!!!! YOU ARENT GONNA MAKE MONEY BY GETTING LOUSY NOT EVEN CLOSE TO MAX DAMAGE WEAPONS...

Rink_ · Jul 26, 2005, 07:21 AM // 07:21

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Originally Posted by Lost

I earned 60k in 2 days by killing everything in Scoundrel's Rise over and over and over and over. I picked up every item and every coin. Once I was full I sold everything and continued on and on and on. I would get about 1 to 1.5k each time I cleared the area. It was a mind numbing process, but it suited my needs.

This is exactly what I do to gain some cash. EXACTLY.

Little Thom's Bro · Jul 26, 2005, 08:20 AM // 08:20

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Originally Posted by Plommon

2-3k ....... you say youve been playing a while......youre still in kryta.....GO AND GET ASCENDED AND GO TO WHERE THE REAL DROPS ARE!!!!!! YOU ARENT GONNA MAKE MONEY BY GETTING LOUSY NOT EVEN CLOSE TO MAX DAMAGE WEAPONS...

your right, or at least get to the dessert with your W/Mo this is like walk in the park

Xeno Demachilo · Jul 26, 2005, 08:25 AM // 08:25

Ive gotten a purple Max Dmg sword in kryta.....

Mugon M. Musashi · Jul 26, 2005, 09:23 AM // 09:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baratus

Oh and that reminds me. Is it NORMAL to continually get purple drops, but after identifying them, they have no rune or even special powers? I have found a dozen or so weapons and items like this. For instance, I found a short sword and when identified, it's name was "Shortsword", no extra atrributes, no nothing.

just in case, here are some exemples of what I am talking about

they are not identified yet
but it's not written "unidentified" in the description
therefore I already know that there will be 0 bonus if I identify them

Jul 26, 2005, 12:14 AM // 00:14	#1
Baratus Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Elizabethtown, NC Guild: Deathkings of The Dark Citadel Profession: D/Me	How do you make cash? Alright, I need some gold, how do I gte it. I have been grinding for over a week trying to get 10k and I can't even get 2~3k. II used to enjoy this game but I am so sick of it right now. Nobody drops anything unless you venture alone. Venture alone and three or four hits mean death. Venture with allies and nobody drops anything. So you can spend hours with a few allies getting four or five items, or you can spend ten minutes dying trying to get better drops. I am stuck and need the cash for better armor and weaponry. I got my sword in Ascalon several patches ago and am at Kryta now, using the same sword because drops are so rare, and 90% of the time it won't drop a weapon I use. When it does, the weapon is weaker than mine! I can buy better ones, but I can't get any cash. Is it just me or is this whole game unbalanced now? I remember playing from the beginning and it ruled. You needed cash? Go slaying for an hour or two and salvage or sell the drops. Now if you want anything you're supposed to grind for a week slaying the same damn monsters in the same area over and over and over and over again?! Everybody talks about the desert and other high-level places, but I can't go there yet. I have twelve or thirteen runes that I cannot use, and the retarded rune-seller sells them for 2~3plat, and offers me 25 gold for each? What the hell is that? At least give me half price! I know you can offer to sell them to other players, and I've tried, at half the price of the respective new rune. No go. I have only sold one thing to another player since I started playing and only then because he was desperate and needed it more than I did. Still, if players won't buy the things, and a 2plat rune won't fetch more than 25 gold, how the hell can I make money with them? I'm not trying to get rich and have 800plat here, I just want to make enough to get by. With the economy system non-functional (come on, 25gold for something worth 2p?) and players apparently abundant with the major and minor runes I have to get rid of, how does one do it? This sucks and I nwo understand 100% why people use macros or bots or whatever. Start it up and walk away for a month and have two or thre plat when you come back? I don't see the big deal. What I do see is hours of grind going unrewarded and an economy system so screwed-up it's impossible to do anything. In the time I played today, I made ~640 gold all day. That's just WRONG. I am open to suggestions other than "you don't need money". Trust me, YOU DO.

Jul 26, 2005, 12:35 AM // 00:35	#2
Mugon M. Musashi Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: France (Paris) Guild: BUG Profession: Mo/W	get guildmates to help you out and then repay when you can ? if you're not willing to farm and just need a little cash to pay for your armors, I guess that should do it

Jul 26, 2005, 12:40 AM // 00:40	#3
Baratus Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Elizabethtown, NC Guild: Deathkings of The Dark Citadel Profession: D/Me	We do help eachother, but none of us have the cash. Pooled we might have 3plat, if we're lucky. They're having the same problems I am. We get lucky and find a rune worth several plat, but you either sell it for 25 gold or keep it locked up in your inventory for when the economy is finally removed or fixed. Same with purple and blue weapons. Oh and that reminds me. Is it NORMAL to continually get purple drops, but after identifying them, they have no rune or even special powers? I have found a dozen or so weapons and items like this. For instance, I found a short sword and when identified, it's name was "Shortsword", no extra atrributes, no nothing. Sold for 80 gold though. I've used expert salvage kits on a few of these and yielded no runes or anything. They're just purple. Like the devs want to tease you. You see a purple drop, get all excited, then it's nothing at all, as if making money wasn't hard enough.

Jul 26, 2005, 12:40 AM // 00:40	#4
Ultimate_Gaara Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?	im not even going to bother saying just how little money means in this game.. but i will say this.. just play the game, some day you will get lucky and find a item worth like 8K.. which is really all you need... another thing i did with my first character is i explored just about everywhere i can and got some ok drops... but they add up in the end, you dont need to farm to get gold.. just luck

Jul 26, 2005, 12:51 AM // 00:51	#6
Baratus Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Elizabethtown, NC Guild: Deathkings of The Dark Citadel Profession: D/Me	No what I meant was that it was unidentified and purple, but identifying it only showed a normal item colored purple. It didn't have any extras at all.

Jul 26, 2005, 12:54 AM // 00:54	#7
Mugon M. Musashi Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: France (Paris) Guild: BUG Profession: Mo/W	I'm pretty sure what you had was a purple weapon without the text "unidentified" written in the description it happened to me several times

Jul 26, 2005, 02:38 AM // 02:38	#9
Baratus Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Elizabethtown, NC Guild: Deathkings of The Dark Citadel Profession: D/Me	Pre-searing is more generous with drops. I was getting decent drops for that area while I was there. Try moving past that area and watch as it gets worse. I still haven't made jack. I have two options right now and both are boring. I can push myself through the storyline to get on through the game, or I can spend hours upon hours wasting time trying to farm at areas other than the end of the game. Both are boring, but there's no choice. I pushed through three sections of the storyline and I still can't get good drops. What were the devs smoking when they did this? It's damn-near impossible to buy anything over 200~400 gold unless you spend weeks wasting away farming. There has to be a balance between going through the story and building up your gold/experience. In GW all I see is pushing through the story because you cannot do the latter. So you can do the story, but when you wanna' take a break and get some new stuff, forget it. That's what I see anyway. They should have left a decent drop area every few missions so players could do that. Not everybody wants to push through just to beat the game.

Jul 26, 2005, 03:10 AM // 03:10	#10
Teg Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wandering Tyrian Profession: E/	I'm sorry to hear about your wealth problem (or the lack of it) Where exactly are you right now (as far as the storyline goes)? Gold ($$$) drops gets better when fighting against high level monsters (not so bad gold drops starting in Gates of Kryta). I'm an E/R and have a tendency to explore every bit of area (w/ the henchies as much as possible) and by the time I reached Granite Citadel, I was able to buy most of my 15k armor except for the gloves which I was a plat short (not to mention the other armors I had bought before I reached the Citadel). Granted, we Ele's don't need a helm nor did my armor require any rare material

Jul 26, 2005, 05:55 AM // 05:55	#12
Jasso Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Profession: N/Mo	Also you should always identify all things you are going to sell. For example, a plain short sword might be worth 20 gold when you are selling it but if you identify it before you sell it, might be worth of 36 gold. When you are short of gold at start of game, identifying helps a bit but its not a total solution for your problem

Jul 26, 2005, 06:04 AM // 06:04	#13
Lord Malikai Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado Guild: Imperial Fist Guild Leader Profession: W/E	I have to agree with the OP. This game came out and said straight up "Less grind than any other game". Bullcrap. So what the level caps at 20, you still need to grind 30 extra levels to get the skill points to get all your skills. You need to farm in an unfarmable game (let's face it, drops are rediculous now) for your Droknar armor. Forget it if you want the 15k armor, have fun farming for a week just for cash. The only way to make it rich in this game is to make a primary monk, go to UW and do 3 man smite runs. Or be a trapper and do a 4 man trap run. I'm not hatin on GW. I like the game. I just think the newer people to this game that did not get the chance to hit all the sweet spots that were out there when GW was first released, are going to find themselves farming a lot more than GW initially pitched in their release.

Jul 26, 2005, 06:10 AM // 06:10	#14
Lost Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hell's Precipice	By the time my first character reached the Granite Citadel and saw the 15k armor I decided I wanted that armor just so I could look expensive. The problem was I only had a few platinum. My character wasn't that strong so I couldn't solo any of the high value areas so I decided to farm a wimpy area to death. I earned 60k in 2 days by killing everything in Scoundrel's Rise over and over and over and over. I picked up every item and every coin. Once I was full I sold everything and continued on and on and on. I would get about 1 to 1.5k each time I cleared the area. It was a mind numbing process, but it suited my needs.

Jul 26, 2005, 06:17 AM // 06:17	#15
MJ12trooper Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: farming somewhere Profession: E/Mo	wow by the time i made it too droknars i had around 45k

Jul 26, 2005, 06:53 AM // 06:53	#16
Plommon Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sweden Guild: Shiverpeaks Wolves Profession: N/Mo	2-3k ....... you say youve been playing a while......youre still in kryta.....GO AND GET ASCENDED AND GO TO WHERE THE REAL DROPS ARE!!!!!! YOU ARENT GONNA MAKE MONEY BY GETTING LOUSY NOT EVEN CLOSE TO MAX DAMAGE WEAPONS...

Jul 26, 2005, 08:25 AM // 08:25	#19
Xeno Demachilo Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Benefactors Of Darkness Profession: W/Mo	Ive gotten a purple Max Dmg sword in kryta.....